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polvandik · 31 Ago 2018 a las 15:55

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I think a lot of riders out there are typically over-biked, and end up purchasing and riding much longer travel rigs than their usual trails demand. I call it the ‘SUV Effect’.
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Jeje buena comparativa lo del "efecto SUV"

acerma1 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:19

Solo añadir al tema calas/platas que en teoría para un pedaleo redondo hay que tirar de los pedales hacia arriba, pero el beneficio en poco y los riesgos de lesión en los isquio-tibiales es altísimo

termaltake · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:31

que ganas de que el primero que se de una galleta acuda a garantia con mira se me partio el manillar... lo cubre la garantia? y le digan no pon potencia normal asi si te caes se gira y no se parte

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Solo añadir al tema calas/platas que en teoría para un pedaleo redondo hay que tirar de los pedales hacia arriba, pero el beneficio en poco y los riesgos de lesión en los isquio-tibiales es altísimo

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error, jamas se tira hacia arriba pedaleando, jamas, se empuja solo, biomecanica del pedaleo, si tiras para arriba usas musculatura no tan capaz como por contra si lo haces cuando empujas, por lo tanto con plataformas puedes ser igual de eficiente pedaleando que con calas... empujar se empuja igual o mas incluso con plataformas, salvo xc y zapatos de suela de carbono ultra rigida tipo road

Sven Parguelson · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:33

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que ganas de que el primero que se de una galleta acuda a garantia con mira se me partio el manillar... lo cubre la garantia? y le digan no pon potencia normal asi si te caes se gira y no se parte
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Beg you pardon?

termaltake · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:35

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Beg you pardon?
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pardon you beg?

Oscar AndU2 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:37

La verdad que ese manillar da yuyu.....

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acerma1 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 16:42

termaltake dijo: ↑

que ganas de que el primero que se de una galleta acuda a garantia con mira se me partio el manillar... lo cubre la garantia? y le digan no pon potencia normal asi si te caes se gira y no se parte

error, jamas se tira hacia arriba pedaleando, jamas, se empuja solo, biomecanica del pedaleo, si tiras para arriba usas musculatura no tan capaz como por contra si lo haces cuando empujas, por lo tanto con plataformas puedes ser igual de eficiente pedaleando que con calas... empujar se empuja igual o mas incluso con plataformas, salvo xc y zapatos de suela de carbono ultra rigida tipo road

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Pensamos igual, no tirar ....

elcafetera · 31 Ago 2018 a las 17:37

Que fue del offset? Eso eran temas interesantes, lo de calas si, calas no pussss

Daserxt67 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 17:55

Y las 29?

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scrat64 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:14

El offset que se consigue con plataformas es imposible conseguirlo con calas....
Con este aumento de offset el resultado será

Ya no seras clase en media en tu grupeta, serás clase alta, lo que te llevará a que cambies de grupeta, a una semipro.
Empeceras a dominar los Enduros regionales, con esto, ya alguna tienda te dirá que corras para ellos y te dejarán la bici a precio de "coste", tendrás que cuidar tus RRSS, los followers son importantes...
Con esto ya estaras preparado para codearte con la crew nacional, y harás el Open de España, tu style ya será reconocido y ya tendrás algun admirador.
Correras un par de años el open, con buenos resultados e intentaras correr alguna EWS.
Tu situacion "contractual" con tu tienda/equipo sigue igual, y acabas frustrado por no tener el apoyo que mereces.
Vas dejando la competición, y montas por diversion y viviendo de "rentas" , un par de años, dejas la bici y pasas a otras cosas...

@negro !!
Esta claro que la fase de fuerza y la mas optima es "hacia abajo", pero hay otras fases, en las que ir con calas, hace que pedalees mejor.
Que se puede pedalear, y bien con plataforma, si.
Pero con calas siempre vas a poder pedalear mejor.

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scrat64 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:16

polvandik dijo: ↑

Jeje buena comparativa lo del "efecto SUV"
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Muy acertado con lo del efecto SUV!!

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bartmikel · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:32

Quitar offset a la horquilla para meter la rueda más hacia el piloto, no se conseguiría eso igual dejando el offset de serie y alargando la potencia??

bartmikel · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:34

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Hasta que probéis mis zapatillas Double-cleat.
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scrat64 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:56

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Te pongo los bocetos en exclusiva...pero que no entere @Tongoles , que me los han pasado bajo mano

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scrat64 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 18:58

Merdé se me habia adelantado...

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Gary_Fisher · 31 Ago 2018 a las 19:08

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Quitar offset a la horquilla para meter la rueda más hacia el piloto, no se conseguiría eso igual dejando el offset de serie y alargando la potencia??
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No, con las bicis tan largas de hoy en día lo fácil sería hacerlas más cortas y ya, pero no se conseguiría el mismo resultado en cuanto a funcionamiento y sensaciones encima de la bici

chirigotero · 31 Ago 2018 a las 20:37

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Punta Ala Punishment
Already I’ve had the chance to ride the Ransom in quite a variety of locations during a two-month road trip around Europe. I had a few days in Lake Garda riding with my good friend Zili from MtbCult.it, and he was kind enough to help me out with shooting some photos of me on the Genius. Following our Garda stop, most of my time aboard the Ransom was spent in Punta Ala in Tuscany, which is located around a 1.5-hour drive down the coast from Pisa. The site of the first Enduro World Series event in 2013, Punta Ala is home to a lucrative network of natural singletrack that includes some properly arse-puckering downhill trails. Along with its dry, loose and rocky trail surfaces, Punta Ala proved to be an ideal environment for tyre and suspension testing on the Ransom.

As well as using the local shuttle service at the Punta Ala Trail Centre, I also spent plenty of time doing pedal-powered trail riding to see how efficient the Ransom was, and also to see how rideable it could be on more mellow singletrack. For those interested in checking the area out (I can highly recommend it) we stayed at the PuntAla Camp & Resort, where we camped right next to the beach. It’s a neat spot. If you want more info, head here.

Having come off the Scott Genius, the Ransom took no time to get used to. Photo: Andrea Ziliani.
The Ride
With the Genius still fresh in my mind, it took no time at all to settle into the Ransom’s riding position. The cockpit feels familiar thanks to an identical reach measurement, though due to the steeper seat angle, it is ever-so-slightly shorter while pedalling at full mast.

The new Syncros Tofino saddle deserves a mention here for being a particularly comfy perch, and it is a marked improvement over the XM saddle on the Genius. I also really like the shape and sweep of the Hixon handlebar too, which has a lovely degree of vibration damping. Nope, you can’t adjust the roll of the bar like you can with a regular bar/stem setup, but the grips fit so well in the hand that I never felt the need to.

Scott is pouring a lot of resources into the Syncros brand, and it’s starting to show. The new Tofino saddle is really good.

I ran the Syncros Hixon bar as high as it would go.
Even though the bar has 20mm of rise through it, the front end doesn’t feel jacked up to the sky. In fact, I already have the stem at the top of the steerer tube, and I wouldn’t want the grips to be any lower than that. Because the Ransom has a very stubby head tube and a low-profile integrated headset, it ends up with a short 613mm stack height. That is deceivingly low for a 29er that has a 170mm fork hanging off the front of it, and it contributes to the Ransom’s trail-friendly riding position and handling.

Before arriving in Punta Ala, our road trip took us through the Alps in Austria and northern Italy, where I was able to test the Ransom’s climbing abilities and overall comfort on several big alpine loops up in the mountains. With solid 1-2 hour climbs on a mixture of tarmac and dirt fireroads, I certainly got plenty of use out of the TwinLoc remote. I’m not normally a fan of remote lockouts and the added cables they bring, but having the ability to turn a 170mm travel big rig into a nearly rigid bike at the flick of a lever meant I used it regularly. This saved energy on those big road climbs, and meant I’d arrive at the top feeling fresher for the descent back down.

The 3-position TwinLoc remote flicks the fork and shock between Descend, Traction Control, and Locked positions.

In Traction Control mode, the rear shock volume is reduced to limit the travel to 120mm.
Really though, it’s the Traction Control mode that is most useful on the Ransom. In this middle setting, one of the main air chambers inside the Nude TR shock is sealed off, which shrinks the effective air volume to create a much more progressive spring curve. The suspension ends up being so progressive that it actually limits travel to 120mm, giving the Ransom a noticeably springier feel with a more pert pedalling platform. At the same time, the fork’s low-speed compression damping is also increased.

As well as improving efficiency, the Traction Control setting also changes the bike’s dynamic geometry by lifting the BB height by 9mm and steepening the head and seat angles by 0.7°, putting you in a better position for climbing. However, the steeper the incline, the more dramatic the difference in geometry compared to climbing in the open Descend mode. On a 15% uphill slope, Scott claims the BB sits 20mm higher, and the angles steepen by 1.5°.

It may be a 170mm travel bike, but with Traction Control engaged, the Ransom moves uphill incredibly well. Photo: Andrea Ziliani.
This is particularly noticeable on technical climbs lathered in roots and rocks, where pedal clearance comes into play. The extra space between the crankarms and the ground meant I could clean sections of trail that left me bashing pedals in Descend mode.

Even in the shorter travel Traction Control mode, the suspension still remains active. There is no change to the shock’s compression damping, only its air spring, and that allows for bumps to be absorbed smoothly. Along with the high volume Maxxis tyres, the Ransom delivers a load of usable traction to prevent you from spinning out and stalling. I never expected to say that a 170mm travel 29er climbs well, but…err…the Ransom climbs well.

This is a very efficient bike to pedal. Photo: Andrea Ziliani.
My only qualm is with the kinked seat tube, which has the effect of pulling the saddle backwards as it’s extended out of the frame. The saddle height on the medium-sized Ransom is bob-on for me, with the collar of the Fox Transfer post slammed down as far as it will go. However, riders with longer legs that need more seatpost extension will end up with a slacker effective seat angle, which may or may not be a problem. Given I still have the saddle pushed forward on the rails, I’d say Scott could have gone steeper on the seat angle.

Once turned around at the top of the mountain, the Ransom’s self-shuttling proficiency begins to make sense. Flick the TwinLoc lever into Descend mode, and all of a sudden you have 340mm of combined suspension travel waiting to suck up everything in its path.

The two Fox dampers play well together, providing a similar feel to vertical wheel movement at the front and back. The 36 Float is already a well proven performer that I don’t need to elaborate on. The chassis is plenty stiff, the adjustments are easy to understand, and the damping is consistent. It isn’t as glue-like as the newer GRIP 2 damper though, so that may be an upgrade some will want to consider.

The TwinLoc remote only adjusts the fork’s compression settings. Heavy hitters may wish to upgrade to the new GRIP 2 damper.
Out back, the Fox Nude shock is supple and effective on the rough stuff. Scott has tuned the Ransom’s suspension kinematics with a slightly lower anti-squat value compared to the Genius, which trades some pedal efficiency for a more active feel throughout the travel.

Likewise, the shock’s big air volume has been tuned to deliver as much coil-like performance as possible, with the four-bar linkage delivering a pretty low average leverage ratio of 2.61:1. The leverage rate does ramp up towards the end though, and that means the Ransom will play nice with coil shocks. And with more space surrounding the shock body and the frame, there’s also clearance to run a piggyback shock – air or coil – depending on rider preference.

There’s also room for a piggyback and/or coil shock too.
There’s further tuneability to be had with the stock shock though. This being the Nude TR shock, there’s an additional lever on the shock body called Ramp Control, which offers Linear and Progressive settings. Controlling a third air chamber that wraps around the main air can, the Ramp Control lever either opens or closes this air chamber, altering the volume in Descend mode. It’s basically like opening up the air can and fitting a volume spacer inside (which you can still also do with this shock by the way). According to Scott, small-bump sensitivity remains similar between the two settings, but the Progressive setting provides a little more mid-stroke support, and requires 50% more force to bottom-out. That’s significant, and as a result, you’ll need to add 1-2 clicks of rebound damping when changing to the Progressive setting.

Personally? I tried the Progressive setting, but found little need for it. I really like the suspension feel in the Linear setting, and being on the lighter side with a smooth(ish) riding style, I never managed to bottom out the suspension anyway. I used full travel plenty of times, but it was never with an unsavoury ‘crunch’ at the end.

Really, the Progressive setting is mainly for jumpy riders like Brendog, who are hitting doubles, berms and huge drop-offs at a bikepark. The fact that you can alter the spring curve with a lever is neat though, and for riders who split their time between riding natural, alpine trails and smooth, high-speed jump lines, the adjustability will be useful. With the addition of an MRP Ramp Control cartridge on the fork, you’d have a very adaptable setup.

The Ransom is a sturdy descender. Photo: Andrea Ziliani.
Suspension doo-hickies aside, the biggest trait that comes through in the Ransom’s ride quality is its manageability. It’s an easy bike to handle, which I didn’t expect given its size. Normally an aggressive long travel bike requires a lot of commitment and skill to get the most out of it, but not so with the Ransom.

It corners well, and I found it easy to lift up the front wheel off of drops and over root sections. The stiff carbon frame and low overall weight certainly help, but Scott has built the Ransom with a tidy 438mm rear centre that also contributes to the bike’s nimbleness through the turns. With the saddle dropped down all the way, the low-slung top tube makes it easy to move about on and lean the bike down heavily onto those big cornering blocks on the Minion tyres.

One aspect of the Ransom’s handling that was apparent from the very first ride was the shorter 44mm fork offset. Although I’d missed the UK launch at Revolution Bike Park, and hadn’t had a chance to look at any of the bike’s specs or geometry numbers in the presentation notes, I knew straight away that the offset was shorter than the Genius’ 51mm fork. In comparison to the Genius, the steering is noticeably slower and more steady on the Ransom. With a greater amount of trail, the steering feels more damped, particularly when the trail gets steep and twisty. On intimidating alpine switchbacks, the Ransom feels calmer and more confident. Because of the slack 64.5° head angle, you do need to learn to push more of your weight through the front tyre though. But it’s not as dramatic as some of the uber-long bikes out there.

It’s still fun to ride on twistier trails though. Photo: Andrea Ziliani.
Combined with the big tyre contact patch and substantial 1216mm wheelbase, the Ransom is as stable as you’d expect of such a big bike. It doesn’t necessarily ‘feel’ fast, but it simply smokes down rough and technical singletrack with less drama in the first place. I ended up hitting bigger drops and jumps than I’d attempt on the Genius, since it all seems very doable aboard the big Ransom.

Though it is steady, I wouldn’t say the Ransom feels quite as unflappable as the Pivot Firebird 29 – the last big 29er I tested. The Firebird 29 does have a heavier and burlier carbon frame though, and with a longer more reach – 455mm on the Medium – it’s bias is definitely more towards descending. I guess Scott could have built the Ransom with a longer front centre, but then as it is, this is a very good all-rounder.

The integrated bar/stem means you can’t adjust bar roll, or swap to a different stem length as easily.
Component Notes
Scott has done a sterling job spec’ing out the Ransom, and there is very little on here that I’d change if it were my bike.

The Hixon bar may have polarising looks, but I think it looks mint and the shape and feel is great. You’ll want to make sure you check those stem bolts though – I had the bar twist on me once, and also with the Genius 900 Tuned, so make sure you use a torque wrench and add a little bit of carbon grip past on the alloy steerer tube.

The Code RSC brakes have been absolutely superb, with very good modulation give how much power is available. I did bleed the front brake after the first couple of rides, which is an easy thing to do – as long as you have the specific Bleeding Edge insert for the calliper syringe. Otherwise I got on well with these stoppers, which also won our most recent disc brake group test.

SRAM’s Code RSC brakes are very good stoppers.

There’s plenty of power with the big 4-piston callipers, but the modulation is equally as good.
Maxxis Minion DHFs are well-loved for their combination of cornering grip, rolling resistance and versatility, and I found them to be a great match for the Ransom. For the loose and rocky trails around Punta Ala and Finale Ligure, I was never left wanting for more grip. They aren’t a great wet condition tyre though, and the 120tpi casing is on the lighter side. A change to a Double Defense casing and some toothier rubber will be a worthwhile upgrade for UK enduro racers.

Though I had no problems with the solid Syncros wheelset, the round straight-pull spokes aren’t as common to replace as standard J-bend spokes, and a specific tool is required to hold the spoke while truing and tensioning the nipples. I can also envisage some potential customers questioning an in-house alloy wheelset on a bike costing seven G’s.

The Revelstoke 1.5 wheels have held up fine so far, but some may see them as a little ‘low rent’ on a £7k bike.
As usual, the X01 Eagle drivetrain performed reliably, and I never once dropped a chain. This is good, since there are no ISCG tabs on the Ransom frame, so your only chain security is the lightweight upper guide.

There are no ISCG tabs on the Ransom frame, though the bike does come with this neat upper guide.

The X01 drivetrain never missed a beat. Rubber armouring inside the drive-side stays also means it’s a very quiet bike.
The updated TwinLoc remote deserves a mention, as the paddles now feature a rounder profile and machined traction grooves that are much nicer to operate. The main clamp bolt for the whole assembly is now in a much more sensible location, which makes adjusting the angle of the dropper lever and TwinLoc paddles a lot easier.

Three Things That Could Be Improved

A steeper or straight seat tube: Scott went conservative on the seat angle, and the kinked tube means the effective seat angle gets slacker as you extend the post

Pivot hardware: I find torx hardware annoying at the best of times, but the T30 pivot bolts are a total pain

Wheels: Though I had no issues with them, the straight-pull spokes are more of a faff, and some customers may perceive the stock hoops to be a little low-rent on such an expensive bike

Three Things I Loved

The approachable handling: the Ransom is steady and confident to ride, but it’s also very manageable on less-gnarly trails

Traction Control: This is a turbo charger for the Ransom’s pedalling manners, and it’s largely responsible for the impressive all-round versatility

High traction rubber: the big volume Maxxis tyres offer fantastic grip and comfort on rough and rocky terrain

The Ransom 900 Tuned is the top-end model, but Scott will have Ransom’s starting from £2,799.
Overall
Much like the original Ransom, the new version successfully pairs together a load of suspension travel with a classy and lightweight carbon frame. With the TwinLoc system offering fingertip-control of that suspension, the Ransom has genuine uphill performance that extends its versatility well beyond what I expected of such a big travel bike.

So, who is this bike made for? Well, the Ransom is no doubt a superb enduro bike. It may be heavier than the Genius, but it’s a better descender, and that will be appealing to serious racers. For competition stages that feature a good amount of pedalling, the TwinLoc system is also a very handy tool for boosting efficiency.

Though it is a confident descender, it’s worth noting that this isn’t a hooligan bike. It isn’t only made for smashing downhill laps at a bikepark, and it doesn’t require a World Cup downhill track to come alive. No, this is a proper all-rounder. A bike that relishes in being pedalled up long mountain climbs to access rough, natural, alpine singletrack. The Ransom is a self-shuttler that laughs at mechanical assistance.

Given its alpine credentials, is it too much bike for UK riding? I don’t actually think so. If you frequent technical trails like those in the Lake District, the Tweed Valley and around Snowdon, then the Ransom is ideal for that sort of big mountain riding. And when it climbs so well and is still fun to ride on ‘normal’ trails, why not have that extra travel to enjoy on the way down?

https://singletrackworld.com/2018/08/review-2019-scott-ransom-900-tuned/
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J0der pole te, cuando quieres te equiparas al xoxopelut, en los parrafones que mete

xixopelot · 31 Ago 2018 a las 20:56

Puedes ir comiéndome los huevos Chirimoyero

Polete85 · 31 Ago 2018 a las 21:16

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J0der pole te, cuando quieres te equiparas al xoxopelut, en los parrafones que mete
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Cortapega a saco.

LyN_Suiza · 31 Ago 2018 a las 21:32

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Cortapega a saco.
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