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    Here's a video on the Rock Reverb Adjustable Seatpost. It's the one that comes stock on the Canyon AM 8.0 X.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnRBSMJEoZI

    These things aint cheap. Here it is online for 247 euros.

    http://www.kingbarcelona.com/es/tija-sillin-telescopica-rock-shox-reverb-309-380mm-p-13221.html

    I have two friends with telescopic seatposts and they say it's a real game changer, one of the most exciting recent developments in mountain biking. Interaptor, this is basically helpful when you're doing the kind of riding where you have to stop and lower your seatpost for, say, a downhill section, then at the end of it you have to raise it again so that you can pedal comfortably. It just eliminates the need to stop and adjust.

    I suppose it is a luxury, but after a while, people come to expect luxuries like power steering on cars, or airconditioning. I think the “tija pija” will follow suit, just a really nice luxury to have for those doing all mountain and enduro riding.
     
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    jajaja... If I tell the true! I like and style bike, if it´s without shock absorber it´s better for me, The "Tija pija" have a lot of disadvantages like the weight, I think it´s too much, needs maintenance, and for other part it´s possible use in one position only. If you use in other position in five or six biking days it´s broken.

    But It has an advantage and in my opinion it´s quite important. And if you practice and enduro biking when you are riding downhill it´s very important the position of your saddle if it´s down you are more secure and if you "kiss" the floor the most important it´s the bike for one part and the rider for other. I had seen some accidents with this problem.
    Obviously I only recomemend it if you make an enduro biking in oher case it´s stupid your bike wins a lot of weight, only earns security in this downhill quite complicated.

    In my case I never have had a problem with my girlfriend and the reason it´s because I keep my bikes in my private storage where womans are not allowed ....jejeje

    Cheers
     
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    The 1994 is "Handmade with pride..." whereas the 2009 is designed in UK but made in Taiwan (like so many other bikes). Excellent bike all the same. The 2009 frame is going to be for sale, after I build up the Chumba. I cant justify having too many bikes at the moment. (I have 2 others). I will never get rid of the 1994, I use it as a road bike now, it still looks lovely with it's Zinc coating.
     
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    .. as for telescopic seatpost - a silly fad on my opinion. It really doesnt take a long time to put your seatpost up and down. Not worth the weight, potential mechanical problems and cost.
     
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    Lovely 1994 Orange P7. Thats when a UK bike was for sure a UK bike. Now we have "tijas pijas"...
    When riding in the dirt, reliability is a key factor. What would happen if your telescopic mechanism went to fail when your seat is down?. Remember, Murphy´s law is around the corner... the simpliest the better... it´s a luxury device, no dout about it, but maybe cons exceed pros...

    Here is an example of What technology can do for us. Would you like your girlfriend be with you when this happens?: :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bateVoomrTY&NR=1

    Cheers!
     
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    Today I rode "Halloween mode" for a while. I put my helmet off and took these nice masks from my panniers...

    helmet2.jpg helmet1.jpg

    It´s funny how people spontanietily react.

    Cheers!.
     
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    Interaptor, you're a monster on a bike :taz

    As I see telescopic seatposts, the drawbacks are similar to those of shock absorbers since the technology is similar. And I also suppose that with time they'll become better and more reliable. Like so many things, only time will tell if they're a fad or not. Personally I don't think they'll ever be widespread, but they'll find a niche among all mountain and enduro riders, because they're the ones who have to stop and raise and lower seatposts.

    Or not. Sometimes you just can't be bothered so technical downhills are just a little more dangerous. Or you're blazing down a trail and you see a short technical section ahead. Well, now you can lower your seatpost “on the fly”, so it actually makes biking safer (at least for those who experience bikes this way).

    Mackem, I like your 1994 Orange P7. Actually I've had a quite a lot of experience working on old bikes, namely my hybrid which is about 20 years old. Now I think I'd like to experience a good full suspension bike. In any case, it seems whatever bike you have you end up spending time doing regular maintenance. My Conor is a year and half old, and I have to admit I've really thrashed it, but I usually end up spending an hour or so on clean-up and maintenance after every ride.
     
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    So, the moral of the tija-pija´s story can be reduced to a mathematical logic problem: How many times in a ride will you use the seat post mechanism on the fly?. This question lead us to the next one. Will you combine not-so technical dirt biking with technical downhill sections within the same ride?. The number of all-in-one rides can be a clue to Know if the telescopic seat post is worth it.
    As far as I know you have to go by car to the most technical downhill sections to really need to lower your seat. So far there is not a massive use of the device. I reckon to manually lower your seat is never a posh action when you have the automatic alternative in the market...So the trird question is: Is it right to lower the seat to pass trhough small downhill areas when in your usual rides?, I mean, Not in long downhill sections, but say, 100 meters downhill then 300 meters flat, then again 80 meters down... Will the telescopic seat post be a good thing if we operate it that often?. If so and your rides are this up and downs sections no doubt it´s a great thing...

    As I see it all boils down to the number of actions you need to take concerning seat high...
     
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    I decided to open a thread in the General section of this forum and find out what people had to say about the telescopic seatpost, and I'm happy to say that almost all of the responses were positive. That is, of course, if you do the kind of riding that requires you to raise and lower your seatpost more than once or twice on your rides. And thanks Interaptor for putting in your two cents worth as well. Your comments are always interesting and thoughtful.

    http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.php/797606-¿La-tija-pija-merece-la-pena-¿Qué-opináis

    Shifting gears, as I write this it's raining. It's certainly nice to see we're getting some much needed wet stuff, but actually I hope it doesn't rain on Friday because that's when I go for a long ride on my road bike. At least the forecast says it's clearing up at the weekend so I'll be able to go mountain bike riding, probably in the Sierras on Sunday, but it'll be cold.

    Speaking of the Sierras, there seems to be a disturbing trend towards banning bikes there. Seems that hikers complain about bikers barreling down the mountain and scaring them half to death. I'm sure some bikers do that, but it doesn't quite seem fair that they should ruin it for the rest of us.

    http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.php/728449-El-monte-Abantos-tiene-sus-días-contados...
    http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.p...SCORIAL-SE-HA-TERMINADO-pero-ESTAMOS-A-TIEMPO
     
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    I rarely have to do any maintenance on my P7 (the 2009 one), why? because I have good disk brakes and use a hub gear. Even my girlfriend has noticed that my trips to the bike shop are rare now. The hub gear is a far more important innovation than a uppy-downy seatpost. They work so well on a mountain bike. They only need to reduce the weight slightly so they are better on a full-suspension bike then I think everyone will start using them.
     
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    I found that a new saddle meant my need to raising/lowering the seatpost was reduced, a narrower seat made it easier to get my arse over the back. I ride the steep stuff.
     
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    Thanks David, sometimes an opinion from someone new in the biking world completes what the experts have to say. That´s my mission!.

    Going on that mission, I completely agree on the innovation that a hub gear is. I saw some of them installed in city and touring bikes –maybe they need to be lighter as MacKem says in MTB- and immediately fall in love. I´ve a crush on them. Riding on a hub gears you don´t need to continuously think of changing before a red light. You can change gear when stationary. It´s simpler than the conventional way, no risk for the chain going out the chainring, less lubrication or not lub at all, longer transmission life, easy adjustments, and of course, usable every single minute you go riding. There is an interesting thread in this forum about Rohloff –installed in 2006 and counting- or Alfine excellences…

    http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.php?134237-Aki-Tunin-%A1Ya-rulo-con-Rohloff!
    http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.php/424000-Aki-jam-Ya-rulo-con-Alfine!!!/page5

    Not so good news for your Friday ride on the roadie. It will be unpredictable locally raining for a few more days all over Spain:

    http://www.eltiempo.es/lluvia/?p=madrid

    On Sunday – as the word says- we will see the Sun. Maybe mud also guarantied.
     
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    I've heard a bit about hub gears and I have to admit they sound interesting. I hear they last pretty much forever, and I'm sure they're much more protected on mountain bikes than the conventional kind. I wiped out on my bike about a month ago and since then my rear derailleur has been giving me constant headaches. I'm wondering if in the end I'm going to have to give in and just buy a new one.

    Yeah, that's a good point about a narrow saddle. And I had another look at your P7 and saw that it really doesn't seem to have cogs. And you have a short stem on it, which makes it better for steeper stuff because you're in a more upright position. So then are you more of an all mountain rider, or more cross country?

    Tomorrow I probably won't risk going out on my road bike. I hate getting caught in the rain on that bike. It's just really messy (no fenders/mud guards) and I want to take care of that bike, though it is three years old now so it doesn't shift like it used to. What is it with derailleurs anyway?, after a year of solid riding shifting starts going downhill, and I just can't get crisp shifting back, even after changing cables and cable housing and all that. Maybe hub gears are the answer.

    In any case, I'll probably just ride my hybrid up and down hills in my neighborhood tomorrow. Not really a particularly fun ride but at least I'm staying in shape. And if it starts bucketing down it's easy enough to head home and find shelter.

    Armentano, what are you up to?
     
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    Hi!

    These days I was very busy! Yesterday I was with David Herrero. it´s a very good biomechanic. I had some physical problems and finally last month I decided take an appointment with him. I recommended like a biomechanic, he has a lot of experiencie because he was a Pro rider. And I had been reading a lot of good opinions about his job.
    I´m seing on this moments how the weather will be this weekend and if don´t change, it´s quite bad just now. I will be here waiting until tomorrow.

    Speaking about Mackem´s P7 , I like this idea with hub gears, it seems without maintenance, but my question it´s? For a mountain biking where normally we clean our bikes more for the mountain conditions, Have you got some problems to clean it with water? Because it´s close like an standar hub and normally are delicates.
     
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    Hi Interaptor!

    About my physical problem , it wasn´t very complicated . I had a tiny pain in my leg at the end of a biking day. The reason it was because I use insoles and I had some doubts if it was necesary use to ride. I had valgo/varo in my feet. And He solve with wedges. The problem it´s in my opinion, there are a lot of doctors who don´t know with a lot of technical the physical biking problems.
     
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    So it sounds like David Herrero solved your problem. It's interesting to know about him just in case I, or anyone I know, start suffering unusual pain. So where is he based? Has he got an office somewhere where he sees patients. I have to say a admire him for setting himself up in such a helping profession. I imagine he gets a lot of satisfaction knowing he's really helped people to enjoy their favorite sport. He can really make a big difference is people's lives. By the way, how much does he charge for his services?
     
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    I use an Alfine hub, so just one cog at the front and one at the back. Short stem/wide bar for the control (and 140mm forks). I dont really put myself into a category of riding, I ride up and down mountains.
     
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    For the moment I have good sensations, but I need more time, it´s too soon on this moment. It´s posible in one or two weeks I could speak better about all this changes. First at all, I would like tell us he is a professional based in tech . He starts with the roller bike where he can see exactly your efforts in each leg. With his experience he can see all the movements you are maken on the roller. All this appears at the computer and he is explaining at the same time all this figures. After of all this, he see the shape of your feet and legs,( in my opinion this is the most complicated) and then, he put wellges in your shoes depending your feet and legs. With all this changes you come back to the roller bike and you can see your news figures at the computer and sensations. He see all like saddles, handlebars, frame size, stems. In my case I change the handlebar and the saddle. My firsts sensations are very different I can see new muscles working in my legs.And about the price , Is it expensive?, For me no! If you think all we can make for our hobby it´s cheap because I´m very happy on this moments.
    He works in Vizcaya, but he travels a lot for Spain. Only to make visits out it´s necesary three or four clients in the same city (It was my case).
     
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    I gather your Afine hub didn't come stock on the bike, so I suppose you bought one and had it installed? Or did you do it yourself? How long have you had it? Has it been reliable and all that? From what you said earlier about not spending ages doing bike repairs I gather it has.

    If it's not raining tomorrow I'll be going mountain biking. Probably will be pretty muddy.
     

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