Wow! Can you imagine how would biking be in another planet?. I mean, the real motion in the Earth is all about acceleration triggered by the gravity force in our planet... What we know about biking would completely change if we think of taking a ride elsewhere but in the Earth. This kind of fun in slow mo could actually be something real if we consider a different gravity force, for the best or for the worse, our planet is the only one with this specific gravity force and we bikers know how it affects our actions on a bike. Just give me a different gravity force and Speeds of 200 kmts/h on a bike could be possible. How much time does a jump on a bike such like that seen on those videos take?. It also depends on the gravity force. A close real slow motion jump is possible within a smaller planet!. Very nice videos, thank U David!
That actually sounds like a really fun idea: wouldn't it be great to ride on the moon where there's something like only one sixth of the gravity as here? I imagine if you did jumps you could go a lot farther, and if things went wrong, you probably wouldn't hurt yourself too badly, unless you messed up your spacesuit. But I suppose it might get boring too. Here you have more gravity, more risk, and more excitement I would say. So coming back down to earth, looks like this weekend is going to be rainy in Madrid, unless the forecasters really get it wrong. So this is the time of year when my old hybrid sees a lot of action, mainly just riding it up and down hills by my house. This is obviously just to stay in shape, doesn't do much for my mountain biking skills. The rain is great for the water reservoirs, agriculture, clean air, but not so great for cyclists. But there are some true all-weather cyclists who go out, rain or shine. Maybe when I get a good bike, I'll fix up my Conor for rain and mud. Maybe, though I'm just not that crazy about riding in the rain. Yet another option is to get rollers. Though judging from this video it takes some practice. But I'd rather have rollers rather than a home trainer which holds your bike in a fixed position. I tried one of those once and it certainly didn't feel natural. [video=youtube;f9X-8koa8dE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9X-8koa8dE[/video]
oppssss! Too much practice required there mate!!!. Rainy weekend ahead for us in Madrid!. I can tell how i´m changing when it comes to biking in the rain. Well, at first I was absolutelly reluctant to even think of going out on a bike when it rains- tho I do like walking in the rain-, but having been checking the efficiency of my old bike´s mudguards or fenders I can only say it´s not that bad biking when it sprinkles... of course not when it rains cat and dogs, but i´m discovering the pleasure that it is to ride in the rain with fresh and clean air taking the atmosphere out. Some precautions are essential for you to take theese days. Lubrication in the rain must be generous on your chain, recommendable light devices on and specially for those who don´t have disc brakes installed, breaking distance is longer when the brake pad is wet. With all these things all right, it is a nice ride what you can have in the rain. I would avoid muddy terrain, city or bike lanes are the places for me to be in the rain. And of course, an old careless bike will be perfect to get the job done!. After getting home You don´t have to take too much time cleaning it up. Some people use umbrellas when they ride in heavy rain... I wonder if there is an automatic inflatable umbrella device ready to use by pressing a botton, as the telescopic seat post does... Maybe it should be a must in some rainy places! . Talking of the devil, electronic and automatic devices, what do you think of electronic gear shiffting systems?. I love the mechanical simplicity on a bike but I do also love electronic devices!!! ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFy8brPU-gc&feature=related
Well, so far I've managed to get out for some kind of ride almost every day, so if I miss a ride on Saturday or Sunday I suppose I'll survive. This is what I've done. Monday: a day off Tuesday: went running Wednesday: did hills on my hybrid Thursday: messed around on my jump bike Friday: went to Guadalix de la Sierra on my road bike (93 km, 28.5 kph) I'm a bit skeptical about automatic gear shifting, especially because it just seems absurdly expensive. I mean, who can afford to fork out 3,500 euros for a bike transmission? I suppose I'm a bit of a purist: bikes are for pedaling (electric bikes are not for me) and the extra weight and expense of automatic gear shifting just doesn't seem worth it. Hub gears like the Alfine seem a lot more interesting. I mentioned that I got on my road bike today for the first time in a while and it was wonderful. It was like like meeting up with an dear old friend. No, it was more like meeting up with a lover. Well, maybe you can only take this sort of simile so far So ya' doing in wet riding these days? Cheers!
ME? I have to admit it. I have procrastinated some rides on my bike, so I´m not in the shape I was two months ago!. Anyway, Not a bad season -my first ever season, I bought my bike 10 months ago. Since then I´m in love with her,have increased my average speed, visited a lot of places in Madrid that I didn´t visit before, learned a lot of the biking world, made some friends, had a great time... Yes, a bike worths it!. Well, I love my bike and love life. Today something sad happend when riding my bike towards Fuencarral. Loving life as I do, it´s a terrible scene what I saw, not to remember anymore. 4 people trapped in a freaky car accident. As a result, 2 of them were pronunced dead while trapped in the car. Since then I´m in sock. There are no words to describe how fragile life is if we are not lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time... Poor guys. This time my bike took me to the wrong place. We couldn´t do anything for those trapped in the car. Not even The cops, firemen or ambulances,... This is what we cyclist could see this morning from the Anillo Verde Bike lane, 50 or 55 Kmts from the start. Sorry for the brutal impact this image can cause. I can assure you It´s even more terrible live. (Photos taken from the news) 2 deads and 2 severelly injured trapped in the Peugeot. A mother and her doughter in the BMW were not injured at all, but crying for what was happening. It was not their fault, but nothing else matters but the life of two people. RIP. It´s a sad day in Madrid not only because of the rainy grey day. Show must go on. I completely agree with you on the automatic gears. Not for now. But maybe in the future.Talking of technologie and bikes, I want you to see another video. A tribute to Steve Jobs... Back in the time when he was a young professional, listen what he said about efficiency, technologie and bikes!. He is right, He was a real gurú. Efficiency is what I love the most of my bike. Take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_GX50Za6c&feature=player_embedded#! Finally, I want to say that I´ve noticed a grow of folding bikes in Madrid. I am doing a research in the internet and found it is a fascinating world inside the biking world!. They are perfect to commute combining the tube or some other locomotion. On sunday DO NOT FORGET TO VOTE!!! Whatever it is. Cheers!
It's hard to believe you've just been into bikes for ten months. Seems like years, doesn't it? And you're a fast learner (and pedaler)! Accidents, and especially fatal ones, always make a big impression on me. You really can't take life for granted. You can be called home at any time, so to speak. And that accident looks really nasty. I'm sure it was very traumatic for the mother and daughter as well. Actually even flowers on the side of the road make an impression on me. It's like, someone died here, and we're remembering them. That's the case, by the way, when you ride to Colmenar Viejo on the bike lane. There are always some flowers about where the Al Campo is in Colmenar. The Steve Jobs video was good. It's nice to see his high opinion of bikes. He's really got it right. About a year ago I was seriously considering getting a folding bike. My idea was to combine the underground and the folding bike to get to my classes. I was thinking of getting a good one, but now I think I might still get a cheapee, then it won't be so bad if it gets stolen. By the way, I remember a while ago you were saying you bonked on your bike. I know that now you eat more carefully, but in any case, here are the Ten Most Common Nutritional Mistakes in Sports, and it's in Spanish. http://ccalcayna.blogspot.com/2011/11/los-10-errores-mas-comunes-del.html
Thank U! Good useful tips on food for me… They can really make a difference. I will try not to forget them. My only “run-out-of-gas” or Mr.Hammer feeling was something not to be remembered. Your body gets fizzy and weak in a split second after having been received several starving signals for a while and doing nothing but pushing hard… Not anymore, Next time I Know I´m going to be visited by Mr. Hammer I will pull over as soon as possible. I promise. But first I will take care of myself by doing everything I can on the list. By seeing how many folding bikes there are in Madrid, It seems like a good idea. Well, as you know most of all I keep an eye on the economic side of biking!, so I decided to see if folding bikes prices went up from last year up to now. Yes, they did. So I assume, according to law of supply and demand, folding bikes are taking a successful step forward to become the king of the city bikes. My first ever bike -I was 5 y.o.- was a BH folding one. But we have come a long way since then. According to this site, they are not a toy at all: http://bicicritica.ourproject.org/bicicletas-plegables I´ve even seen 26” and 700c tires folding bikes!. But folded are not that small. 20” are more versatile. Some prefer 16” or 14”. I do think a 20” bike is the one to consider. Here we can see how a Brompton is handmade in London: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqK1EdkzCRc The cheapest -5 times cheaper than Bromptons- one I saw was a Decathlon model, not bad feedback, astonish price of 170 euros. It´s called Gotty Freedom. In between there are a lot of options, national or foreign brands. Although there are some doubts about the reliability – ex. of the folding mechanism- when you go cheap, it is obvious that the spread in prices is too wide: you can get 5 cheaper Gotty Freedom bikes for the price of one Brompton... And as you say, each of one those five is thief worry careless!. Today I rode my old MTB “one-ring-only”. My chainring cable said farewell to live and I just fixed it by putting a pole in the right place to go on within the middle ring. I like how breakdowns can be fixed in a bike. It would be completely different in a motorbike or a car… Concerning bicycles, it has to be a real bad luck if they prevent you from riding back home. It takes this guy 0.5 seconds to know what was wrong... funny spanish sentence what he uses... "Hosti(á), se ha partido la tija..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fi39wh6DEA He can also go back home on that bike!. Cheers!
Sorry I've been a bit out of touch. Anyway, sounds like you've quickly become knowledgeable on folding bikes. I still don't have one, but a while ago I was thinking of getting a Strida. Check out the video below. It just seems like a really cool yet practical bike. http://strida.es/ [video=youtube;kVVgsQt1DK4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVVgsQt1DK4 [/video] BTW, a friend of mine has a Brompton and he's just passionate about it. He uses it to commute to Madrid every day. I think he lives somewhere around El Escorial so he rides his bike to the bus station, takes the bus to Moncloa, then cycles the rest of the way through Madrid to work (about a 20-minute ride). The bike folds to a really small size, so he can fold up the bike and leave it in a corner at work. Doesn't have to leave it outside where you have to worry about theft.
David, no need to be sorry on not quickly replying since it is obvious that all of us have our own responsibilities, duties and the like, to take bikes in general and this forum as an extra time hobbie. Yeah, there is an interesting video on how the Strida came up to life. It´s triangular frame, the technical problems and first draws all around the idea of creating a singular urban folding bike. Some would say that more than others Britons tend to think a lot about the complexity of folding things when you take into account the origin of both Brompton and Strida. Brompton´s patent ended some time ago and since then some other brands are taking advantage of it, especially Asian bikes. There is a war all over the world, a commercial one in which one´s idea is not yours for a long time. You can see Dahon mechanisms in Asian bikes or even in African (yes! African!) bikes. The last example I saw is from Tunicia. They make a folding bike called Waycrast or something like it, not a quality model, but sold at Norauto at 119 euros… 10 times the price of a decent Brompton. Again the question is, what do u prefer, to buy an “at-least-10years” worry-free warrantied bike or a “worry-magnet” bike per year. Well, I´m slowly ruling out the idea of a folding bike for me. I don´t commute to work, but if I did I would probably use one of those. My house is not small, but if it were I would probably think of buying one of those. I see the point of folding the bike and take away wherever you want… especially in a car, but also when going by train, plane or tube… where a f-b is really convenient, not heavy one. But even when your house is not small you have to choose what kind of riding you are in, otherwise you can end up with 5 bikes at home. Not a good perspective. So, before getting a f-b I would probably buy a bigger size one to practice some “specialized” riding, not the hybrid style I have by now. Anyway, I don´t need too much money to get “specialized”! Talking of the different styles in riding, some people say it´s not good in order to get agility and speed on a road bike to just go relax on other bike, say a touring bike. I mean, if we think of just road (not a mountain bike where the difference is obvious) we could think that every ride on a bike strength you up no matter touring or speed what you do, but for some reason those people say they loose speed on their roadies after riding a touring bike. Not everyone agree on this but there are a significant number of bikers who think this way. Anyway, I will always like touring or city bikes, including f-b. Be alert. Christmas is coming. Bike offers on the rise!!! Cheers!
I wonder if Brompton's going to have to change its business model at some point and start producing some lower-end models. But then again, now Bromptons are exclusive bikes, synonymous with quality. They'd lose some of that by putting out cheaper bikes. I'd say if you're going to be leaving a folding bike outside, get a cheapee. It would be crazy to leave a Brompton outside. People experience bikes in different ways. I suppose that for most people a road bike is to push yourself. I mean, it's a lightweight, high performance machine, designed to go fast. The geometry as well tends to be more “nervous”, that is, less stable but more responsive. I know my Scattante is like that. It actually took me a couple of months to get used to it when I made that big leap from hybrid to road bike. A road bike really is quite different from a hybrid. But I think you can get in good shape on a hybrid if you push yourself. I know when I was riding mine I used to see how fast I could get around the Anillo Verde Ciclista. I think I once managed to get around the whole thing in three hours, but to do that you have to go when there's little traffic 'cos you're going to be running a lot of red lights. So, shifting gears, are you into stretching at all? I'm getting more and more addicted to it. It just seems like good preventive medicine, helps you avoid injuries. Here are a couple of links. http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/stretching/allstretches.php http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.php/783667-Estiramientos-en-el-Ciclismo?highlight=estiramientos Cheers!
Thank you very much. I was looking for something like this! :chinchin LOL. To stretch!. Can you believe what happened to me last Saturday?. I rode my bike to Tres Cantos to see a friend. I stopped by a bridge, that one with the red fences once you pass the 3Cantos Hotel on the 607 bike-lane. Everything was ok, sunny great day, my bike at her best… and I was not late. So I decided to stretch on the bridge´s fence. Great place to look over the incipient snow in the Madrilenian Sierra and get your body stretched, my bike parked along the bikelane trough the bridge. Then I suddenly realized something weird around me. Two Guardia Civil –Police- patrol cars running fast down there, emergency lights on. I was thinking of something urgent to be solved elsewhere, but as both cars stopped down the bridge, two officials went out and up towards me!. As they were coming up I thought they wanted to ask me if I had seen something or someone they were in chase of. But guess what they told to me!!!. “Good morning sir. Would you be so kind to tell us what you´re doing here?”. “Doing here? Excuse me… Did I do something wrong?” “No sir. We don´t mean to bother you. We have been told a man on a bridge… Sorry to ask you… Are U TRYING TO COMMIT SUICIDE?!!!”. :alloreto LOL!!!. At this point I couldn´t help laughing as the question was for sure important for them to be clear and properly answered, but ridiculous for me to even think of why the hell did the cops came to ask me such thing. Just their work I guess. So I said with a smile in my face “Of course not!. I´m just riding my bike, stopped to perform stretching exercises“. “Oh I see. Sorry for the inconveniences. We had to check it out. May I see your ID, please?”… Yes, here you are… LOL. The important thing which this articles don´t even mention is the place you plan to get the benefits of stretching exercises, practicing extrange rituals!. Be careful if it´s a bridge!!!. Now, Changing gears, what would you guys think of a road bike equipped with disc brakes? Maybe they are around the corner… http://velonews.competitor.com/2011...ohn-wilcockson-what-caused-the-crashes_183602 Cheers!
Hello peeps, juts thought you might like to see some of the biking oop north. My friends' business is guiding up here, last weeked I showed him some trails local to me... http://www.basquemtb.com/basquemtb-mountain-bike-tour-on-the-coast-near-bilbao/
Interaptor, your story really flipped me out. Weird! and besides that bridge just doesn't seem like a good place to commit suicide, I mean, if you jumped off you'd probably break your leg but not die (not that I've given much thought to this). Interesting article too. Everbody's stressed out, even (or especially) professional athletes. Mackem, the pics are spectacular. I'll bet Basque Country is like Galicia: when you have good weather it's mountain bike heaven. And your friend's a bike guide? That sounds like an ideal job; getting paid to do what you love to do. Speaking of local trails, today I went biking in the Sierras, to La Morcuera. I rode on snow for the first time in my life. I also truly froze my butt off when we got there. It was -3.5 degrees and I wasn't really ready for that. But after about 45 minutes I finally warmed up, but it took going up a mammoth uphill. Here I am.
Hey! Very nice photos there mates!. Both the cliffs in Bilbao and the incipient snow in Madrid. What beautiful places to have fun!... Congrats on doing so. I´m gonna get a new bike to “get specialized” my way. I mean, cheap Berg´s way :chinchin . Enough for me to efficiently get into MTB or road biking. Efficiency is all about a minimum quality required and the price. Can´t think of a better way to achieve these goals than Berg. Not even B´twin. Now is the time in which most of the brands get rid of their 2011´ stock to immediately offer the new 2012 models. It sounds good isn’t it?. The time is now. That said, I don´t know what type of bike I was looking for, road or mountain bike. You may think I haven’t made up my mind yet, and you´re right. Therefore at these cheap prices I will get all of them, but due to the logistic problem at home, I will go step by step, one by one, not all at the same time. So, this morning I dropped by Sport Zone S.S.Reyes and saw some interesting bargains –or what they seem to be- both for MTB and road bikes. There were some interesting MTB models, but I saw a roadie eager to be mine… . The Berg Fuego 8.5 This one: Can you believe the down in her price?. At first, January 2011, was at 599€. Then it was sold at 499€, standard price. But now it´s at 329€, just the price of the Berg Fuego 8.2 Now, What are the specifications of this bike?. Not a top of the line bike for sure! But as I said, enough for me to get into the road biking world, and If I´m not mistaken, good for the money. Berg Fuego 8.5 Frame: Aluminium Hidroformed 6061TT Brakes Tektro 510A Pedals WELLGO LU-209 – Hubs FORMULA RB31 - easy lock Fork COLUMBUS TUSK LIGHT, Carbon Crankset SHIMANO FC-R450 - Eixo Octalink, 52X39d-170mm Saddle SELLE ROYAL SETA Head Set Ahead TH Orbit IS-2 Tires Kenda K-191, 700x23C Weight 9.8 Kg Seat Post FSA SL250-SBS-C:350mm;D:27.2mmShifterSHIMANO SORA/TIAGRA Shifter SORA ST-3400 (2x9)speedSizes52, 54RimsRIGIDA FLYER 32F - double wall Genre Men This could well be an entry-level 650-750€ road bike in the market, now at 329€. I have also a discount of 10€ from my last buy at SZ, so my final price is 319€. Since this bike is more than 250€, i´ll get another discount on my card of 10€, ready to be used in my next buy... Not a bad deal after all. ;-) I have one only problem, the bike size. The guys at Berg just made it for midgets. Well, not that wrong; they use to have 52”, 54” and 56”. But the 2011 model came only in 52” and 54” sizes. I´m +- 1.82m tall so the 54” size is in the very limit of my requirements. I´m more a 55"-56" size but I didn´t feel bad on the 54" size as I stepped on to test the size at SZ. They guy at the shop told me It was in the limit. It depends on how you like your roadie to be. He, btw, liked his road bike big. So as I see it, it could be good news because I like my road bike being small, but not too small to unfit. I was lucky when he told me I could buy it and test for some days to see if it fits well. I´ve pm David on the matter. I need some help here. I want my roadie to be pretty small and it´s for sure, but I don´t wanna be like a goofy giant biker on a small bike on the road!. And yes, there are cheaper road bikes with good reviews. :unmonton http://www.amazon.com/GMC-Denali-Road-Bike/dp/B000FDDWB6 Cheers.
Finally, Chain and I went to SZ to see the Berg Fuego´s size. It seems to fit well -some wee adjustments required, seat in backwards-. Thank you very much David for coming with me to check it out. Your green light was determinant to get it. On Saturday I will be riding on my new bike. I´ve to say that due to the low price, David was reluctant to admit that the bike is equipped with a carbon fork… :rasta .Humble but nice roadie. I don´t need more sophistication for now. I´m embarrassed about it! David is thinking of getting a fork nearly the price of my entire bike!. He also bought a Bell Helmet one tenth the price of my bike… I know I´m wrong but I do want you to see it this way: Not that my bike is cheap. It´s David´s stuff what is expensive!. Can U dig it???. :cerveza BTW, is this something that you like when going tough? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=46922 Cheers!
Yes, in the end interaptor took the plunge and bought himself a roadbike. It's an entry level one, but really an amazing value for the money, it even has carbon forks. I can hardly believe it. In any case I was happy to go with you. I love bikes and going to bike shops and everything related to bikes. That link to the body amour was good. I'm embarrassed to say but I'm actually considering getting something like that even though I don't do radical downhill or anything. But if you do enduro and you fall you can really get hurt. In any case, I already have elbow and knee pads. By the way, I love the name: No Fear Body Armour. Looks like a good deal too. In any case, you pick up the bike on Saturday, so you can keep us posted on your impressions. And once you're used to it we'll have to go for a ride. We could do something like Guadalix, about 100km.
Oh, Sorry. I´m just seeing the not-so-good reviews that armour has. An Upper-body armour is not a bad idea but this particular one seem not to be the people´s choice. It´s a good deal (50% discount) on the condition that it works… Talking of no-fear and fear armour… I wrote a thread on my fear: http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.p...avemente-en-carretera...-¿Podré-con-el-52x39-. Of course I will tell you if I´m able to tame it. If so, I will probably be ready not to make a fool of myself in about three months time. By then I could try to join you and the little peloton to see how I get by and get in on into this. I really feel like a tamer about to harness a beast!. Next week I will know how hard or easy it is to ride it. Where on earth is my whip?! :nunchakus More to come on the Fuego (FIRE!) story… Cheers!
Well, for all of you who know how to speak spanish, here you are my very first impressions on my first ever road bike: http://www.foromtb.com/showthread.p...avemente-en-carretera...-¿Podré-con-el-52x39- The rest of you, c´mon!!! It´s not that difficult to learn spanish! ;-) I´ll tell you that having been ride my roadie for 80 Kilometers I´m really in love with her. Skinny pretty machine, fast on the road, not so hard to ride...
I just read your other thread. Sounds like you're taking to road biking like a duck to water That sure is good to hear! If you're free on Friday morning we can go for a ride sometime. If you don't want to tackle something a bit more difficult you could go as far as the Cima Javi Tondo or whatever. By the way, if you don't like the position of the shifters, I really don't think it'd be any problem to unwrap the tape, move the shifter, and then rewrap it. I can help you if you like. Also, you should be able to eliminate any chain noise with a simple adjustment of the cable. Let me know if I can help. Congratulations!
Thank U David. This is a funny situation. :shock: First of all It´s me IT IS I ! - , Interaptor. I had to change my nickname in order to get access to the forum. It turns out that my first-impression thread was considered out of place or at least not in the right place for it to be. So I got banned for 7 days!. The road bike general forum is for thoughts on road biking, a very subjective matter. I started my thread right in there and the administrator or whoever is in charge considered my 52x39 fear thread not as a thought on feelings but on stuff and the like, and therefore not the one to be there but in the hardware forum. Anyway, I got banned, the Thread closed. Don´t gonna tell him what kinda subjective thing this is. So, Just for now I am TijaJETset. Yeah! A new nickname formed from two or three words as Interaptor was LOL. All right, starting tomorrow I will be out of Madrid for 4 days. That, unfortunately, includes next Friday. Can´t join you and maybe Brian on your road bike day. Having been calculating the possibilities to ride your pace, take it as a relief for you and for me!. Thank U for your help on all of this. I will probably be ready to decently reach the Javi Tondo spot with both of you in a month time by then I hope you don´t be hard on me. From now to January 2012 I will have few opportunities to ride my bike and get in shape Winter and especially Christmas Eve is not a good season for me to frequently go riding. Anyway, I will join the peloton as soon as I feel I´m ready to performance decently. That will be in the coming year 2012! I´m giving some thoughts to the front break levers position. My last conclusion put the blame on me. I mean, I now think that the brake´s lever position is right since I was breaking the wrong way. Since a road bike´s handlebar has the upper and lower position to rest your wrists, you have 2 options to choose when riding and breaking. I tended to break always the lower one, so I had to put myself in the forward position to break no matter the riding position. Thats why I thought my break´s levers were misallocated. But as seen on the other road bikers, It´s right to break the upper position when you are not leaned on your bike. That way you don´t need to spend time changing positions and looking for the break lever to break. It´s a novice mistake!. I´m learning day by day If I change the levers position, it will be difficult for me to break the upper position, and the upper position is the more natural one. Oh! What a mess. It´s worse to put it on words than seeing it live!. :fumao We will meet up someday in 2012!. Now your advantage is merely physical, not in the machine, yet your Scattante carbon bike or Brian´s Giant is far better than mine. Anyway I´m happy to think I´ve made some progress to close the gap. I will be out for 4 days. Till then Keep your energy up, your soul in peace Oh, take a look at the 6.8 Project from Canyon. I love technical explanations whatever the matter is. This time it´s about the difficulties to make a road bike which features hydraulic brakes as mentioned before: http://www.canyon.com/_es/technology/project68.html Cheers!